Tom Dugan didn’t want to do this podcast. He was in San Diego for a week filming for a new Odyssey project and wanted to stay focused on riding, which is totally fair. Buuuuut, a polar vortex hit Texas and his flight got cancelled two days in a row…so shout out to that freak storm and thanks to Tom for existing. I love this man.

0:00 – Intro/old man wants to cut his legs off
4:10 – Trail Nazi video/early youtube
14:50 – Austin / Terrible One / Being annoying
20:15 – Crazy human interactions
31:52 – Running from cops on the way to X Games
36:30 – “I got some work ethic, for sure”
41:40 – Spot eyes/filming perspective
50:40 – Tom’s confusing living situation
55:20 – “BMX is a lonely sport” 1:00:55 – Love advice from Tom
1:03:35 – Joining Fit/leaving T1
1:05:01 – Brad Simms and Fit situation
1:09:10 – Being a social media child of Aaron Ross
1:14:05 – Walking away from setups / Instagram
Q&A 1:21:00 – Being light as feather
1:28:00 – Crazy interactions/dr pepper/dave Parrick
1:35:08 – Empire BMX and their impact
1:39:04 – The giant bars / wrap up

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